“Unfortunately, even the closest allies can still turn around and put a dagger in your back.” He responded with a small shake of his head, though admittedly Waver didn’t know just how true that had been in the fourth grail war. No one really knew what happened to the Tohsaka mage, who had allied himself with a member of the church. “Especially depending on what’s at stake.” He was a bit too earnest and honest for it, really, but even he knew better than to not expect one day a friend might turn around and be an enemy instead. Reines had even been betrayed by someone before she was even ten, after the lordship had fallen to her before she named Waver a stand-in until she was older.

“Insane is a good way to describe that fiasco… Every time we thought we’d reached an endpoint, something else happened. I can’t begin to describe the varied levels of that mess.” He rubbed at his temple. The memory was enough to give him a headache. The princesses, the murder, Atrum, Aozaki, Aozaki’s creature… “But it did work out, at least as well as it could have. The murder was solved, names were cleared. It was just a terribly frustrating incident.”

Waver offered a small nod at the comment, “While magic and science can differ greatly, we do share similar drives and desires to reach for the unthinkable.” It was simply unfortunate when it backfired, or they reached for something only to learn that it was something beyond their capabilities. Her response gets a softer expression though, a smile crossing his face. “You’re quite right. I have seen what teamwork and strong connections can do, and it oftentimes is more impressive than the individual who works alone. I wouldn’t be sitting here today if it weren’t for such things.”